How multiclass characters work

[daermadm]

Ignore the rules for multiclassing in the book. They suck.

Note: I am sure as things happen it will trigger a memory for a special ruling or something that I made previously in 3.5 and I will implement it. But this should cover most bases.

• Anytime you are awarded XP, you may declare that you are going to add a new class at level 1.
• You must spend 1,000xp to attain level 1.
• You may never level a class multiple levels with a single XP gain.
  • The max you can put into a level at once is a level and a half of XP for any single class.
  • Basically you cannot get awarded 6,000xp for a high level fight and suddenly become a 4th level wizard.
  • So when you start a new class, it will have a maximum of 500xp and will cost you a total of 1,500xp.
  • The next time you get XP, you could bring the class up to 1,500xp total (halfway to level 3), then up to 4,500xp, etc.
• Hit Points stack
  • As per normal, you gain max HP for level 1
  • All subsequent levels have to be half or better on the dice (standard house rule).
  • Your CON bonus is applied anytime you gain a level. You paid the XP to level, you get your bonus.
• You use the best BAB of your classes, it does not stack.
• You use the best saves from your classes.
  • Yes this potentially means you have all good save bonuses.
    • Don’t worry I will still kill you.
• You gain skill points per each class.
  • Your class versus cross class skills should be bought with skill points gained from the appropriate class.
    • When you level wizard, you cannot use skill points 1:1 for a skill that is cross class to a wizard, even if it is a class skill for your fighter class.
• You gain feats as each class hits the every 3 level mark.
  • Yes, if you keep you levels balanced, you will get a feat for eah class when it hits 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, etc.
• You gain ability score increases as each class hits the every 4 level mark.
  • Yes, if you keep your levels balanced you will get an ability score increase for each class when it hits 4, 8, 12, etc.

[daermadm]

@dwarf or @halfgiant, you both had multiclass characters in the previous 3.5e campaign.
Chime in with anything I neglected here.

[dwarf]

ability bumps are ONE point @ every 4 lvl mark in 3.5e, just as a reminder

[halfgiant]

@dwarf How are you computing Erok’s hit points?

Battle Ogres i think racially had a base hp pool of something like 150hp + Fighter levels + Mage levels + Psion levels … do all three classes add in con bonuses for the levels for each of the classes in your calculation?

That is how i did it in 10E but wasn’t sure if it was the same in 3.5?

[dwarf]

originally, a hundred years ago when Erok was built, cloud decided that HP/Saves/BAB didn’t stack for multiclass, hp die was averaged across the classes. Erok, being half-battleogre and half-dwarf never got the base HP pool of his larger siblings, he merely received a strength boost and a predilection for psionics - so i made him a Ftr/Psi/Mage

as he never went the powermaster route or found a power converter, his psi pool and power pool never merged.

i mentioned the old HP vs new HP conversion at cabincon, i think - cloud said he’d ponder it and decide which way he wanted us to calculate things. for some reason my memories of this latest cabincon aren’t as fuzzy as they usually are - dunno why

[daermadm]

@dwarf said in How multiclass characters work:

originally, a hundred years ago when Erok was built, cloud decided that HP/Saves/BAB didn’t stack for multiclass, hp die was averaged across the classes.

Hello year 2000… I sort of remember that a little.

But the above rules for HP stacking should be applied to Erok

[daermadm]

@dwarf said in How multiclass characters work:

i mentioned the old HP vs new HP conversion at cabincon, i think - cloud said he’d ponder it and decide which way he wanted us to calculate things. for some reason my memories of this latest cabincon aren’t as fuzzy as they usually are - dunno why

Honestly, I do not recall this. What conversion are you talking about?

[daermadm]

@halfgiant said in How multiclass characters work:

do all three classes add in con bonuses for the levels for each of the classes in your calculation?

Yes. Because you are spending the XP to truly level the class. Edited the first post.