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    • daermadmD
      daermadm DM
      last edited by daermadm

      http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/fabricate.htm
      http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wallOfIron.htm
      http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/craft.htm

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      • daermadmD
        daermadm DM
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        You cannot make masterwork quality items him this fashion.

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        • orcO
          orc PC
          last edited by

          Im going to need a highlight of where it says you cant cause having just read through them it would appear you could as masterwork is not a magical item

          Unless you mean “Creatures or magic items cannot be created or transmuted by the fabricate spell.”

          in which case the wall is not a magic item it is simply a wall of iron

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          • dwarfD
            dwarf PC
            last edited by

            seems like anything IRON wouldn’t be masterwork jack shit… constantly rusting everytime you stab some git or even expose it to humidity…

            AND fabricate would only make the blade and tang, as the crosspiece and hilt and wrapping are separate, as are the inlaid gems and engravings that qualify an item to be “Masterwork” class

            (all magic items are considered masterwork items, ergo all the pretty happens before the enchantments are laid)
            http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#masterworkWeapons
            http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/armor.htm#masterworkArmor
            (line 4)

            coupled with the fact that you’re using quasi-real metal in the first place, which would wink out anytime you hit dispel/antimagic/deadmagic… yeah, thats the kind of product you want associated with your name…

            to be fair (ta be faihhhh) as a GM i’d prolly allow a caster that had all the requisite skills AND the proper materials to use the fabricate spell as a magical SHORTCUT if he wanted to turn a pile of masterwork-grade hardened steel bars into bare sword blades. use another to premake crosspieces and/or unwrapped hilts. mebbe even allow him to take high-grade uncut gemstones and fabricate them into cut and shaped stones, provided he had the trained skills to do so.

            cant see a way for fabricate to do the inlays or engraving tho… that’d still be elbow grease, as would assembling, polishing, wrapping and whatnot. prolly cut the build time in half or a quarter at the price of bumping up the material cost (instead of buying simple ingots your buying specialized and already forged/hardened bar stocks of masterwork quality)

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            • daermadmD
              daermadm DM @orc
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              @orc said in Make some coin:

              Im going to need a highlight of where it says you cant cause having just read through them it would appear you could as masterwork is not a magical item

              @d20SRD said in Skills: Craft:

              Creating Masterwork Items

              You can make a masterwork item—a weapon, suit of armor, shield, or tool that conveys a bonus on its use through its exceptional craftsmanship, not through being magical. To create a masterwork item, you create the masterwork component as if it were a separate item in addition to the standard item. The masterwork component has its own price (300 gp for a weapon or 150 gp for a suit of armor or a shield) and a Craft DC of 20. Once both the standard component and the masterwork component are completed, the masterwork item is finished. Note: The cost you pay for the masterwork component is one-third of the given amount, just as it is for the cost in raw materials.

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              • daermadmD
                daermadm DM @dwarf
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                @dwarf said in Make some coin:

                coupled with the fact that you’re using quasi-real metal in the first place, which would wink out anytime you hit dispel/antimagic/deadmagic

                My interpretation of Wall of Iron is that it is permanent, not magical after summoned.

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                • dwarfD
                  dwarf PC
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                  dwarf looks at Kargin and smiles evilly

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                  • daermadmD
                    daermadm DM @dwarf
                    last edited by daermadm

                    @dwarf said in Make some coin:

                    dwarf looks at Kargin and smiles evilly

                    Trust me, I know…

                    But read the SRD version of the spell.

                    1e, specifically called this out.
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                    2e is the same as 1e.
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                    But the 3.0, 3.5, and SRD version specifically does not have that highlighted section.

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                    • daermadmD
                      daermadm DM
                      last edited by daermadm

                      Also found where @orc got the idea.
                      https://1d4chan.org/wiki/15,000,000_Gold_a_Day

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                      • orcO
                        orc PC @daermadm
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                        @daermadm Is a good sight lots of clever ideas

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