Shield Spheres & Personal Cubes of Force


  • PC

    I have been meaning to circle back to the previously mentioned discussion around shield spheres, and personal cubes of force (found here)

    @Dwarf Can you provide enough details around creation, cost, and approximate level prereqs needed… not sure if these are epic/ancient level items (there may be upgraded versions of those), but i don’t suspect any 5th level crafter can go banging these out.


  • PC

    While we are at it, Mana Potions, i believe this came about with Diablo… I think, not exactly sure what its origins are anymore. But when Mana Potions are mentioned i think back to Diablo 1. Dwarf introduced them to the Mess many years ago.

    @Dwarf do you remember the basic construction info, and cost? I don’t remember if these were just considered normal magic item with a greater rarity, or were these actually Ancient/Epic classification?


  • DM

    @halfgiant said in Shield Spheres & Personal Cubes of Force:

    While we are at it, Mana Potions, i believe this came about with Diablo… I think, not exactly sure what its origins are anymore. But when Mana Potions are mentioned i think back to Diablo 1. Dwarf introduced them to the Mess many years ago.

    @Dwarf do you remember the basic construction info, and cost? I don’t remember if these were just considered normal magic item with a greater rarity, or were these actually Ancient/Epic classification?

    Mana potions were “normal” but more rare than healing potions. I do not recall if they were introduced before or after Diablo 1. The original Dwarf 2e spell point system predates Diablo.

    They pretty much fell out of use after Arg introduced gem magic.


  • PC

    shield spheres were created by the technodwarves, so you’d have to be either cybernetic or a technomage to even TRY unravelling how one worked.

    PCF’s were a low-cost, low-power variant of the standard cube-of-force found in the 2e DMG that were tuned SPECIFICALLY just to mask out incoming damage instead of gases/magic/all living things, etc. in 2e, they retailed for approximately half the cost of a normal cube, so in 3e that’s probably a safe assumption too. level requirements wouldn’t be affected from the standard cube, as it takes a little more specific knowledge but less overall to make one. the 3e standard DMG cube gives it a 10th lvl crafter requirement, which i believe reflects the ability to cast 5th lvl Wall of Force.

    Mana Potions, believe it or not, are actually on the ORIGINAL document of Ancient Items i scribbled out (called, at the time, simply Potion of Magic) in my moment of madness down in mom’s basement. Jared was there, at the time. Jared ran away 🙂

    While they were considered ancient items at the time, i doubt i’d classify them as such now. In the mess, they’re considered Uncommon - and you’d find one about a tenth as often as you’d find healing potions. cost-wise, they’re about 4x-5x the cost of healing potions (of whatever caliber you’re imbibing) in most markets.


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