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    • daermadmD
      daermadm DM @halfgiant
      last edited by daermadm

      @halfgiant said in Cubes:

      What cubes do we use for that? I assume the color of the highest level spell against the caster level which i assume would be uniform across all the spells in the staff? Not sure i can make that assumption, need to do a bit of research.

      This is where the variable cubes come in. Let me pull out an old 2e character sheet

      @daermadm said in Cubes:

      Spell Level Color
      Low (1-3) Black & White
      Medium (4-6) Red & White
      High (7-9) Black & Red
      Good (10-12) Black & Gold
      Excellent (13-15) Red & Gold
      Exceptional (16-18) Gold & White
      Planar (19-20) Gold & Platinum
      Variable - Low (1-9) Chromatic
      Variable - High (10-18) Iridescent Chromatic
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      • daermadmD
        daermadm DM
        last edited by daermadm

        @dwarf’s original plan had the following cubes. I Cannot find examples where - are. but noted the spots existed.

        Class Lesser Medium Greater
        Mage Dark Grey Glowing Purple -
        Cleric - - -

        The Staff of Power used a Lesser and Medium Mage cube.
        The Staff of Curing used an Amber Cleric cube, but I don’t know if that was Lesser or Medium.

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        • daermadmD
          daermadm DM
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          • daermadmD
            daermadm DM
            last edited by daermadm

            Looking at those old sheets, even some wands used the lesser/medium cubes it seems based on their multiple effects…

            Wand of Frost used Glowing Purple, I assume because of the multiple effects from different levels.

            • Ice Storm - 4th level - 1 charge
            • Wall of Ice - 4th level - 1 charge
            • Cone of Cold - 5th level - 2 charges

            Wand of Fire uses a Dark Grey cube. I assume some fudge factor here to let this wand use a 4th level spell with a lesser cube because wand s only use one type of cube.

            • Burning Hands - 1st level - 1 charge
            • Pyrotechnics - 2nd level - 1 charge
            • Fireball - 3rd level - 2 charges
            • Wall of Fire - 4th level - 2 charges

            So a Staff that only has effects from a specific spell level would use a leveled cube. Potentially, if it only has two effects, it would only use leveled cubes because they would be in different slots…

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            • daermadmD
              daermadm DM @halfgiant
              last edited by daermadm

              @halfgiant said in Cubes:

              Yeah its confusing, and I might add created a new term Retail! It use to be Market or Base Price.

              Well part of that was my unclear understanding that Base was the Market price.

              I prefer the word retail simply because fuck that entire idea that magic is rare and not something that is retail in a shop…

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              • dwarfD
                dwarf PC
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                apparently we need a color for lvl 0 cubes too 😞
                i mean what kind o’ dipshit makes a cantrip wand anyway ? almost embarassed to even type that…

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                • dwarfD
                  dwarf PC
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                  s’been 3 months… no response - calling it Indigo !!!
                  😜 (( twas the only ROYGBIV color cloud hadn’t assigned yet ))

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                  • daermadmD
                    daermadm DM @dwarf
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                    @dwarf said in Cubes:

                    s’been 3 months… no response - calling it Indigo !!!
                    😜 (( twas the only ROYGBIV color cloud hadn’t assigned yet ))

                    And done.

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                    • halfgiantH
                      halfgiant PC
                      last edited by

                      I realize for completeness there needs to be a cube for cantrips, but for some reason the very notion of that just feels ridiculous.

                      Indigo is fine.

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                      • dwarfD
                        dwarf PC
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                        yeah - i think in NWN they built 'em into neverending charged rods… so my caster wound up blasting EVERYTHING with his ray of frost 😜 took farking FOREVER to crack open a chest or kill any monster over level 2… but giving our Wand of Arcane Mark with unlimited charges to someone like Dregs would wind up with him autographing every block, building and paving stone in Vral with sigils - just to annoy Sorvani…

                        one of these days V really needs to get the city a 2nd powerviner for dregs to play with… 😜

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                        • halfgiantH
                          halfgiant PC
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                          Ok we started off with Cubes for Wands, Rods, and Staffs now we are expanding out to Cubes for wondrous items, gem-based magic (i.e. big ohm), magic rings, powered affects built into weapons (i.e. 2d-blade).

                          Items with charges per day, command words, and use-activated can all be converted or powered by cubes so this posting is to serve as a reminder about how magic items that work with cubes outside of Rods, Wands, and Staffs.

                          Cube Chamber
                          A cube chamber is a cube-shaped physical slot or a small extra-dimensional space on a magic item such as the handle of a weapon, edge of a shield, or the back of a breastplate that can hold one or more cubes. When a magic item with a cube chamber is loaded with cubes in the chamber, it is considered ready (or armed) and the magic item can be activated.

                          Loading the cube chamber is a free action to dump used cubes, but requires a move or swift action to update the chamber with fresh cubes.

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                          • daermadmD
                            daermadm DM @halfgiant
                            last edited by daermadm

                            @halfgiant said in Cubes:

                            Cube Chamber
                            A cube chamber is a cube-shaped physical slot or a small extra-dimensional space on a magic item such as the handle of a weapon, edge of a shield, or the back of a breastplate that can hold one or more cubes. When a magic item with a cube chamber is loaded with cubes in the chamber, it is considered ready (or armed) and the magic item can be activated.

                            Where the fuck did cube chamber come from? Are you making up a new thing to go along with Kargin’s chain gun of wands?

                            Cubes are simply small slots on the magic item that they can be inserted into, historically, they were generally not interchanged during combat.

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                            • halfgiantH
                              halfgiant PC @daermadm
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                              @daermadm said in Cubes:

                              Where the fuck did cube chamber come from? Are you making up a new thing to go along with Kargin’s chain gun of wands?
                              Cubes are simply small slots on the magic item that they can be inserted into, historically, they were generally not interchanged during combat.

                              hmm no and yes, its loosely based off of wand chambers, and adapted by Kargin to create physical and/or extradimensional chambers (depends on the circumstance) to hold cubes that power magic items outside of the rod, wand, staff space; like rings, amulets, etc…

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