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    • halfgiantH
      halfgiant PC
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      During last gaming session, there was discussion around the declining value behind d20/3.5 treasure generators. And what magic items the party might find useful. The Portable Mansion was mentioned so everyone else won’t have to ride in Dregnoth’s little shop of horrors (very good idea), others may include-

      1. Laputan’s Recipes for Manacite based magic items; anything specific to their culture
      2. Magical Receipe for Manacite-Self Recharging Cubes
      3. Magical Formula/Craft Design for Manacite-Based Mythallar (Lesser, Medium, or Greater)
      4. Map to the location of a Laputan Magical Research Facility
      5. Dragon Notes/Journal that describes the locations the Dragon has searched, and theories as to its location, seeking treasure that was buried and never recovered during the great battle between Dwarven Kingdom, and the Laputans. Which gives a reason as to why the Dragon choose this area in the first place.
      6. Introduction of the Spellbreakers
      7. Introduction of the Socket magics
      • I would suggest some of the more lessor or minor Ancient magic item recipes, being found in the the horde however since there hasn’t been an Ancient in this multi-verse that may be a tad difficult to explain.
      1. Truesight Goggles

      2. Spell Point Battery

      3. Star Sapphire Crystal Ball ( or other variations of scrying)

      4. Manual of Golems (Admantine)

      5. Ring of Three Wishes

      6. Staff of Magi

      7. Hammer of Thunderbolts

      8. Rod of Dwarven Might, Lordly Might, or Immovable Rod

      9. Staff of the Planes, or Evocation, or Power, or Many Rays, or One Hundred Hands

      10. Book, Manual of Gainful Exercise or Clear Thought, etc… +5 and all the various variations

      11. Mirror of Mental Prowess

      12. Various Ioun Stones (Check with Dwarf, for some reason i though he had a expanded list)

      13. Ring of ArchWizardry, Ring of High Priestliness, and/or Ring of the Mind (not entirely sure how these work with 10e magic)

      14. Alchemist Repellant ( just wishful thinking )

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      • dwarfD
        dwarf PC @halfgiant
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        @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

        • I would suggest some of the more lessor or minor Ancient magic item recipes, being found in the the horde however since there hasn’t been an Ancient in this multi-verse that may be a tad difficult to explain.

        there hasn’t been any DOCUMENTED Ancient in the manaverse… doesn’t mean one or more didn’t wind up here over the past few millenia 😉 could be a whole conclave of 'em by now, hiding on a moon somewhere !

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        • halfgiantH
          halfgiant PC
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          Hey Dregs, how long do you reckon this IOU a Dragon Treasure Horde is good for?

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          • daermadmD
            daermadm DM
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            Coinage
            375,000GP (50% copper, 35% gold, 15% platinum)

            Gems
            4x 5,000GP diamonds
            10x 1,000GP gems (assorted)
            15x 500GP gems (assorted)
            15,000gp gems < 500GP each (assorted)

            Art Objects
            250,000GP assorted high quality items

            Manacite
            Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
            Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
            Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

            Magic Items
            Arcane Scroll Arcane Sight - Deep Slumber
            Arcane Scroll Nondetection - Arcane Eye - Dimension Door
            Arcane Scroll Heroism - Magic Circle against Good - Dimension Door
            Carpet of Flying (5 ft. by 5 ft.)
            Cubes - 60
            Divine Scroll Rusting Grasp
            Divine Scroll Blindness/Deafness - Snare - Wind Wall
            Divine Scroll Speak with Plants - Cure Critical Wounds - Lesser Planar Ally - Wall of Fire
            Divine Scroll Break Enchantment - Scrying - Mass Bear’s Endurance - Gate - Summon Nature’s Ally IX
            Full Plate +2
            Full Plate +3
            Heavy Steel Shield +5
            Helm of Underwater Action
            Light Steel Shield +1
            Longsword +3, Flaming
            Manual of Gainful Exercise (+1)
            Portable Mansion
            Potion of Barkskin (+2)
            Potion of Bear’s Endurance
            Potion of Levitate
            Ring of Chameleon Power
            Ring of Force Shield
            Ring of Minor Spell Storing
            Ring of Protection +2
            Rod of the Python
            Scarab of Protection
            Staff of Defense
            Staff of Life
            Staff of Size Alteration
            Staff of Swarming Insects
            Studded Leather +2 armor
            Wand of Cat’s Grace
            Wand of Cure Moderate Wounds
            Wand of Delay Poison
            Wand of Dispel Magic
            Wand of Fireball
            Wand of Firebolt
            Wand of Invisibility
            Wand of Lightning Bolt

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            • dwarfD
              dwarf PC
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              ** Dregnoth starts moving into the Portable Mansion, so y’all don’t miss him too much **

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              • halfgiantH
                halfgiant PC
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                Refering to this snippet -

                Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                What exactly is the difference between High Quality and Average Quality? The level of magic items you can turn the material into? Not sure what the difference in quality means to us. Is the refinement process what makes it high, or is the manacite itself considered of high quality before entering refinement or both?

                And Raw, meaning unrefined, presumably with it still in the vein we have to harvest it or mine the Dragon’s couch?

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                • daermadmD
                  daermadm DM @halfgiant
                  last edited by daermadm

                  @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

                  Refering to this snippet -

                  Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                  Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                  Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                  What exactly is the difference between High Quality and Average Quality? The level of magic items you can turn the material into? Not sure what the difference in quality means to us. Is the refinement process what makes it high, or is the manacite itself considered of high quality before entering refinement or both?

                  And Raw, meaning unrefined, presumably with it still in the vein we have to harvest it or mine the Dragon’s couch?

                  The quality of the ore is more varied than that. But I could not find my notes and I never did actually work those all the way out. So that’s basically a big placeholder for now. And yes the raw ore still has to be mined.

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                  • orcO
                    orc PC
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                    So if the Slaad takes the Manual of Gainful Exercise (+1) can some one read it to him … cause yeah Im not so sure he can read lol

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                    • DarkWulfD
                      DarkWulf PC
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                      I would be all over a Staff of Magi or spell point battery.

                      and Alchemist Repelent… LMFAO

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                      • halfgiantH
                        halfgiant PC
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                        I don’t think this list has been integrated into the Party Treasure List (on Roll20).

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                        • halfgiantH
                          halfgiant PC
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                          Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                          Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                          Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                          Is it age that defines quality of manacite?

                          Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout?

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                          • daermadmD
                            daermadm DM @halfgiant
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                            @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

                            Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                            Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                            Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                            Is it age that defines quality of manacite?

                            Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout?

                            No, forgot about it

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                            • halfgiantH
                              halfgiant PC
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                              So a few times now in game the DaermaDM has referenced the Laputan’s lack of expansion over many many years to the island nations, and other continents because they have hit a resource constraint on manacite. (Correct me if this is wrong, or i misunderstood)

                              I can only assume they have the ability to scan for manacite some how, or do they still actively look for deposits on their continent? The reason i bring this up is they complete overlooked or didn’t see the 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch). I’m curious if this is because thier ability to detect manacite is limited to refined manacite and they couldn’t see the raw stuff - or the dragon’s abode masked it from their scans?

                              Or something else?

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                              • daermadmD
                                daermadm DM @halfgiant
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                                @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

                                So a few times now in game the DaermaDM has referenced the Laputan’s lack of expansion over many many years to the island nations, and other continents because they have hit a resource constraint on manacite. (Correct me if this is wrong, or i misunderstood)

                                I can only assume they have the ability to scan for manacite some how, or do they still actively look for deposits on their continent? The reason i bring this up is they complete overlooked or didn’t see the 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch). I’m curious if this is because thier ability to detect manacite is limited to refined manacite and they couldn’t see the raw stuff - or the dragon’s abode masked it from their scans?

                                Or something else?

                                The presence was masked.

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                                • halfgiantH
                                  halfgiant PC @daermadm
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                                  Inquiring Artificer’s want to know.


                                  Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                                  Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                                  Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                                  Is it age that defines quality of manacite?

                                  Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout?


                                  Discussion, pasted below found here

                                  Self recharging will recharge at a rate of 1 spell point per hour.
                                  Non-self recharging will recharge at a rate of 1 spell point per week.

                                  Self recharging costs about 10 times a non self recharging to create due to the cost of the denser manacite.

                                  I have still to set costs for manacite…

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                                  • halfgiantH
                                    halfgiant PC
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                                    From above … “Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)”

                                    So how much would a 4000 year old vein translate to in terms of refined manacite weight?

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                                    • daermadmD
                                      daermadm DM @halfgiant
                                      last edited by daermadm

                                      @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

                                      From above … “Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)”

                                      So how much would a 4000 year old vein translate to in terms of refined manacite weight?

                                      Manacite ore weighs about 150 pounds per cubic foot no matter its age. The older it is the more hard it is as it is becoming more crystal like although it is still stone.

                                      There is no exact conversion to refined weight.

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                                      • halfgiantH
                                        halfgiant PC
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                                        Using Gold Vein deposit information found here as a reference.

                                        Vein deposits include most gold mines, many large silver mines and a few copper and lead-zinc mines…

                                        Veins range in thickness from a few centimetres to 4 metres, the average mining width being around 1.2 metres (e.g. at Bridge River). They can be several hundreds of metres long and extend to depths in excess of 1,500 metres. Mineralization commonly occurs in shoots within the vein structures. These may be up to 150 metres in strike length, 30 metres in width and greater than 250 metres vertical.

                                        How wide was our Dragons behind, to be relaxing on such a nice couch?

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                                        • daermadmD
                                          daermadm DM
                                          last edited by daermadm

                                          Manacite is not metal ore. It is stone that has changed.

                                          It is mined along with the stone it is formed in, typically located with the use of divination spells.

                                          Refining can happen more than one way. The dwarven mountain, in which you let Dregnoth ruin their garbage disposal, uses a solutoin of liquefied mana, among other things, in the refining process.

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                                          • halfgiantH
                                            halfgiant PC @daermadm
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                                            @daermadm @dwarf What did we find during CabinCon (besides the Axe of Dwarvish Lords)? In terms of Loot from the Fallen Dwarven Kingdom.

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