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    • daermadmD
      daermadm DM
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      Coinage
      375,000GP (50% copper, 35% gold, 15% platinum)

      Gems
      4x 5,000GP diamonds
      10x 1,000GP gems (assorted)
      15x 500GP gems (assorted)
      15,000gp gems < 500GP each (assorted)

      Art Objects
      250,000GP assorted high quality items

      Manacite
      Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
      Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
      Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

      Magic Items
      Arcane Scroll Arcane Sight - Deep Slumber
      Arcane Scroll Nondetection - Arcane Eye - Dimension Door
      Arcane Scroll Heroism - Magic Circle against Good - Dimension Door
      Carpet of Flying (5 ft. by 5 ft.)
      Cubes - 60
      Divine Scroll Rusting Grasp
      Divine Scroll Blindness/Deafness - Snare - Wind Wall
      Divine Scroll Speak with Plants - Cure Critical Wounds - Lesser Planar Ally - Wall of Fire
      Divine Scroll Break Enchantment - Scrying - Mass Bear’s Endurance - Gate - Summon Nature’s Ally IX
      Full Plate +2
      Full Plate +3
      Heavy Steel Shield +5
      Helm of Underwater Action
      Light Steel Shield +1
      Longsword +3, Flaming
      Manual of Gainful Exercise (+1)
      Portable Mansion
      Potion of Barkskin (+2)
      Potion of Bear’s Endurance
      Potion of Levitate
      Ring of Chameleon Power
      Ring of Force Shield
      Ring of Minor Spell Storing
      Ring of Protection +2
      Rod of the Python
      Scarab of Protection
      Staff of Defense
      Staff of Life
      Staff of Size Alteration
      Staff of Swarming Insects
      Studded Leather +2 armor
      Wand of Cat’s Grace
      Wand of Cure Moderate Wounds
      Wand of Delay Poison
      Wand of Dispel Magic
      Wand of Fireball
      Wand of Firebolt
      Wand of Invisibility
      Wand of Lightning Bolt

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      • dwarfD
        dwarf PC
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        ** Dregnoth starts moving into the Portable Mansion, so y’all don’t miss him too much **

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        • halfgiantH
          halfgiant PC
          last edited by

          Refering to this snippet -

          Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
          Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
          Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

          What exactly is the difference between High Quality and Average Quality? The level of magic items you can turn the material into? Not sure what the difference in quality means to us. Is the refinement process what makes it high, or is the manacite itself considered of high quality before entering refinement or both?

          And Raw, meaning unrefined, presumably with it still in the vein we have to harvest it or mine the Dragon’s couch?

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          • daermadmD
            daermadm DM @halfgiant
            last edited by daermadm

            @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

            Refering to this snippet -

            Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
            Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
            Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

            What exactly is the difference between High Quality and Average Quality? The level of magic items you can turn the material into? Not sure what the difference in quality means to us. Is the refinement process what makes it high, or is the manacite itself considered of high quality before entering refinement or both?

            And Raw, meaning unrefined, presumably with it still in the vein we have to harvest it or mine the Dragon’s couch?

            The quality of the ore is more varied than that. But I could not find my notes and I never did actually work those all the way out. So that’s basically a big placeholder for now. And yes the raw ore still has to be mined.

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            • orcO
              orc PC
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              So if the Slaad takes the Manual of Gainful Exercise (+1) can some one read it to him … cause yeah Im not so sure he can read lol

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              • DarkWulfD
                DarkWulf PC
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                I would be all over a Staff of Magi or spell point battery.

                and Alchemist Repelent… LMFAO

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                • halfgiantH
                  halfgiant PC
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                  I don’t think this list has been integrated into the Party Treasure List (on Roll20).

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                  • halfgiantH
                    halfgiant PC
                    last edited by

                    Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                    Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                    Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                    Is it age that defines quality of manacite?

                    Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout?

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                    • daermadmD
                      daermadm DM @halfgiant
                      last edited by

                      @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

                      Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                      Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                      Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                      Is it age that defines quality of manacite?

                      Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout?

                      No, forgot about it

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                      • halfgiantH
                        halfgiant PC
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                        So a few times now in game the DaermaDM has referenced the Laputan’s lack of expansion over many many years to the island nations, and other continents because they have hit a resource constraint on manacite. (Correct me if this is wrong, or i misunderstood)

                        I can only assume they have the ability to scan for manacite some how, or do they still actively look for deposits on their continent? The reason i bring this up is they complete overlooked or didn’t see the 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch). I’m curious if this is because thier ability to detect manacite is limited to refined manacite and they couldn’t see the raw stuff - or the dragon’s abode masked it from their scans?

                        Or something else?

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                        • daermadmD
                          daermadm DM @halfgiant
                          last edited by

                          @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

                          So a few times now in game the DaermaDM has referenced the Laputan’s lack of expansion over many many years to the island nations, and other continents because they have hit a resource constraint on manacite. (Correct me if this is wrong, or i misunderstood)

                          I can only assume they have the ability to scan for manacite some how, or do they still actively look for deposits on their continent? The reason i bring this up is they complete overlooked or didn’t see the 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch). I’m curious if this is because thier ability to detect manacite is limited to refined manacite and they couldn’t see the raw stuff - or the dragon’s abode masked it from their scans?

                          Or something else?

                          The presence was masked.

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                          • halfgiantH
                            halfgiant PC @daermadm
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                            Inquiring Artificer’s want to know.


                            Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
                            Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
                            Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)

                            Is it age that defines quality of manacite?

                            Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout?


                            Discussion, pasted below found here

                            Self recharging will recharge at a rate of 1 spell point per hour.
                            Non-self recharging will recharge at a rate of 1 spell point per week.

                            Self recharging costs about 10 times a non self recharging to create due to the cost of the denser manacite.

                            I have still to set costs for manacite…

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                            • halfgiantH
                              halfgiant PC
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                              From above … “Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)”

                              So how much would a 4000 year old vein translate to in terms of refined manacite weight?

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                              • daermadmD
                                daermadm DM @halfgiant
                                last edited by daermadm

                                @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde:

                                From above … “Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)”

                                So how much would a 4000 year old vein translate to in terms of refined manacite weight?

                                Manacite ore weighs about 150 pounds per cubic foot no matter its age. The older it is the more hard it is as it is becoming more crystal like although it is still stone.

                                There is no exact conversion to refined weight.

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                                • halfgiantH
                                  halfgiant PC
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                                  Using Gold Vein deposit information found here as a reference.

                                  Vein deposits include most gold mines, many large silver mines and a few copper and lead-zinc mines…

                                  Veins range in thickness from a few centimetres to 4 metres, the average mining width being around 1.2 metres (e.g. at Bridge River). They can be several hundreds of metres long and extend to depths in excess of 1,500 metres. Mineralization commonly occurs in shoots within the vein structures. These may be up to 150 metres in strike length, 30 metres in width and greater than 250 metres vertical.

                                  How wide was our Dragons behind, to be relaxing on such a nice couch?

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                                  • daermadmD
                                    daermadm DM
                                    last edited by daermadm

                                    Manacite is not metal ore. It is stone that has changed.

                                    It is mined along with the stone it is formed in, typically located with the use of divination spells.

                                    Refining can happen more than one way. The dwarven mountain, in which you let Dregnoth ruin their garbage disposal, uses a solutoin of liquefied mana, among other things, in the refining process.

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                                    • halfgiantH
                                      halfgiant PC @daermadm
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                                      @daermadm @dwarf What did we find during CabinCon (besides the Axe of Dwarvish Lords)? In terms of Loot from the Fallen Dwarven Kingdom.

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                                      • halfgiantH
                                        halfgiant PC
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                                        /bump

                                        Add CabinCon II loot plus Dragon Horde loot for divy. Last location of cabin con loot is in Dwarf’s boot.

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                                        • halfgiantH
                                          halfgiant PC
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                                          Magic Items still in Dwarf’s Boot from Cabincon?

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                                          • halfgiantH
                                            halfgiant PC
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                                            /bump

                                            Missing a black dragon horde, and the magic items from cabin con!

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