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    • halfgiantH
      halfgiant PC
      last edited by halfgiant

      For Prosperity -

      Once upon a time, a long long time ago - an upstart magus, the world’s firstborn Managanger who’d stolen the secrets of powermastery from Daren, broke the laws of magic. taking a page from Arg’s gem magic, he recrystallized MAGIC ITSELF, building a variable matrix of effects into the item which could be called forth during casting by using up to 10 of the Spellbreakers as material components.

      Mystra and the other gods of magic swiftly stepped in to rebuke the disliked Managanger - but when they sat down to actually ANALYZE the spell point cost vs effect ratio built into the item, could find no flaw in how the Spellbreakers worked - even if each one did allow casters to bend the rules a tiny bit, individually. not wanting to stifle innovation and the evolution of magic, the gods reluctantly allowed Malathon to continue fashioning and disbursing the items all across the realms - teaching the secret of their relatively simple construction to his friends and allies.

      ((originally fashioned to mimic some of the abilities of powermasters, many of the spellbreaker’s functions were later included in 3rd edition’'s metamagic feats, oddly enough - lending further creedence to the conspiracy theory that TSR has vast numbers of apprentice mages watching various D&D games with crystal balls and wizard eyes aplenty))

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      • halfgiantH
        halfgiant PC
        last edited by

        So @dwarf the mechanics of spellbreakers, if i remember were-

        1 Spellbreaker was 50gp to make? what was it to buy retail?

        And you could stack spellbreakers but only upto 10 at a time correct?

        Don’t suppose you remember the creation process?

        Common functions i remember that people did with them are:

        • Caster a spell at higher level than your caster level
        • Remove level limits behind the spell
        • Change energy types
        • Generate similar affects to metamagic abilities (ie. twin)
        • Extend Range, and Duration and manipulate other attributes

        I’m sure there are others, don’t quite remember them.

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        • dwarfD
          dwarf PC
          last edited by

          they were 50 gp to make, 500 to buy… to make them, you took a 50 gp gem and poured 30 spell points into one via dweomerflow, causing the gemstone to melt and recrystallize into a memorized pattern that could “break” one of the tiny laws of magic inherent in a standard spell.

          and yes, as you quoted, up to 10 of them could be used per casting.

          each Spellbreaker vanishes as it augments the spell it’s applied to, combining its effects with the spell itself. the original, 1st generation spellbreakers could :

          • unlock the level cap/damage dice of a spell (like 2e Fireballs, Acid Arrow doing more than 2d4 damage per round, etc)

          • overpower spell, adding d2 roll to spell (Restoration heals 1+d2 levels, etc)

          • extend duration to 24 hours (defensive personal spells like Fly, etc)

          • permanency minor effects (created food, lesser alterations like Change Self, etc)

          • increase probability of success or harden failures (10% per gem, affecting enemy MR, Teleport chance, etc)

          • expand target area of spell (30’ radius Fireballs, Stoneskin on 2 people instead of 1, Disintegrate 2 at once, etc)

          • give caster temporary level boost (+1 per gem) granting access to stronger effects like fireball dice, spells he cannot cast yet, OR unlocking magics from another realm (mage casts Heal, or Town Portal, etc)

          • refocuses power source of spell (solarize, negatize, holy, etc - holy Stoneskins, Continual sunLight, fun fun fun)

          • alter defensive spell’s effect from fixed to level variable (Armor or Shield increases to 1/caster level, Negative Plane Protection stops 1 attack/lvl of caster, etc)

          • make a beam spell last for the entire round, opening up a scything attack (Disintegrate dusts a strip out of whomever it touched, etc)

          • reroll all 1’s on damage dice, 2nd gem rerolls all 2’s (so 5 gems would maximize a fireball)

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          • halfgiantH
            halfgiant PC
            last edited by

            /bump

            I like Spell Breakers.

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            • dwarfD
              dwarf PC
              last edited by

              You like spellbreakers, dude ??

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              • halfgiantH
                halfgiant PC
                last edited by

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                • dwarfD
                  dwarf PC
                  last edited by

                  Dregnoth also likes de spellbreakerz…

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                  • halfgiantH
                    halfgiant PC
                    last edited by

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                    • dwarfD
                      dwarf PC @halfgiant
                      last edited by

                      you should really clean those before cabincon…

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                      • halfgiantH
                        halfgiant PC
                        last edited by

                        I better get to cleaning my Greater Spellbreakers!

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                        • daermadmD
                          daermadm DM
                          last edited by

                          Well since I now have to figure out epic 10e since @halfgiant wants it at 20 like 3.5e…

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                          • halfgiantH
                            halfgiant PC
                            last edited by

                            I’m down with whenever you want to do Epic, makes no difference to me, 21, 25, 30… I’ll roll with it. Besides i think i have a work around anyway to grab Epic feats early.

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                            • halfgiantH
                              halfgiant PC
                              last edited by

                              /rumor has it we can use up to 5 spellbreakers per casting.

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                              • daermadmD
                                daermadm DM @halfgiant
                                last edited by

                                @halfgiant said in Spellbreakers:

                                /rumor has it we can use up to 5 spellbreakers per casting.

                                It is currently 5. I may lower it or raise it once you screw me with it a few times.

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                                • halfgiantH
                                  halfgiant PC @daermadm
                                  last edited by

                                  @daermadm I see, warming the waters to prepare us for when you invoke the DM taksies backsies clause.

                                  @dwarf well I guess we should make one combined spectacular use of our Alchemically Infused Ancient spellbreakers, before the DM looses his nerve 🙂

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                                  • dwarfD
                                    dwarf PC
                                    last edited by

                                    yep - but we STILL have to trench out that new Great Rift on the Moon to store all that manacite (as well as provide my shining buttock crevasse to the admiring worshippers below)

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                                    • halfgiantH
                                      halfgiant PC
                                      last edited by

                                      So I know last we left this discussion it was 5 spellbreakers minimum at one shot, and they cost 500gp / each. Nobody could make them at the time, but you could have them made for 500gp.

                                      I’m feeling that we are now into Epic, and on the precipice of Tier 2 that Kargin should at the very least be able to make them upon our return from the Moon Temple of Alchemical Evil.

                                      Thoughts?

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                                      • dwarfD
                                        dwarf PC
                                        last edited by

                                        here, let me translate that for ya Cloud…
                                        “I know how much you’ve enjoyed getting bent over the table… how about we change it up and try dry-fucking for a change ???”

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                                        • halfgiantH
                                          halfgiant PC @dwarf
                                          last edited by

                                          @dwarf said in Spellbreakers:

                                          “I know how much you’ve enjoyed getting bent over the table… how about we change it up and try dry-fucking for a change ???”

                                          Slanderous that is, I’m a hard-working Artificer trying to make his way in the Manaverse, having to risk life and limb in the Moon Temple of Alchemical Evil w/ Dregnoth no less. And these hurtful accusations are being catapulted upon my honor and good intentions.

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                                          • daermadmD
                                            daermadm DM @halfgiant
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                                            @halfgiant said in Spellbreakers:

                                            minimum

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