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    • dwarfD
      dwarf PC
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      Dregnoth also likes de spellbreakerz…

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      • halfgiantH
        halfgiant PC
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        • dwarfD
          dwarf PC @halfgiant
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          you should really clean those before cabincon…

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          • halfgiantH
            halfgiant PC
            last edited by

            I better get to cleaning my Greater Spellbreakers!

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            • daermadmD
              daermadm DM
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              Well since I now have to figure out epic 10e since @halfgiant wants it at 20 like 3.5e…

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              • halfgiantH
                halfgiant PC
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                I’m down with whenever you want to do Epic, makes no difference to me, 21, 25, 30… I’ll roll with it. Besides i think i have a work around anyway to grab Epic feats early.

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                • halfgiantH
                  halfgiant PC
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                  /rumor has it we can use up to 5 spellbreakers per casting.

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                  • daermadmD
                    daermadm DM @halfgiant
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                    @halfgiant said in Spellbreakers:

                    /rumor has it we can use up to 5 spellbreakers per casting.

                    It is currently 5. I may lower it or raise it once you screw me with it a few times.

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                    • halfgiantH
                      halfgiant PC @daermadm
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                      @daermadm I see, warming the waters to prepare us for when you invoke the DM taksies backsies clause.

                      @dwarf well I guess we should make one combined spectacular use of our Alchemically Infused Ancient spellbreakers, before the DM looses his nerve 🙂

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                      • dwarfD
                        dwarf PC
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                        yep - but we STILL have to trench out that new Great Rift on the Moon to store all that manacite (as well as provide my shining buttock crevasse to the admiring worshippers below)

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                        • halfgiantH
                          halfgiant PC
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                          So I know last we left this discussion it was 5 spellbreakers minimum at one shot, and they cost 500gp / each. Nobody could make them at the time, but you could have them made for 500gp.

                          I’m feeling that we are now into Epic, and on the precipice of Tier 2 that Kargin should at the very least be able to make them upon our return from the Moon Temple of Alchemical Evil.

                          Thoughts?

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                          • dwarfD
                            dwarf PC
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                            here, let me translate that for ya Cloud…
                            “I know how much you’ve enjoyed getting bent over the table… how about we change it up and try dry-fucking for a change ???”

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                            • halfgiantH
                              halfgiant PC @dwarf
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                              @dwarf said in Spellbreakers:

                              “I know how much you’ve enjoyed getting bent over the table… how about we change it up and try dry-fucking for a change ???”

                              Slanderous that is, I’m a hard-working Artificer trying to make his way in the Manaverse, having to risk life and limb in the Moon Temple of Alchemical Evil w/ Dregnoth no less. And these hurtful accusations are being catapulted upon my honor and good intentions.

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                              • daermadmD
                                daermadm DM @halfgiant
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                                @halfgiant said in Spellbreakers:

                                minimum

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                                • halfgiantH
                                  halfgiant PC
                                  last edited by

                                  Ohh shouldn’t an Ancient be able to make a spellbreaker for 50gp?

                                  Infinite scalability baby!

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                                  • daermadmD
                                    daermadm DM @halfgiant
                                    last edited by

                                    @halfgiant said in Spellbreakers:

                                    Ohh shouldn’t an Ancient be able to make a spellbreaker for 50gp?

                                    Infinite scalability baby!

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                                    Good thing you don’t have 50GP

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                                    • halfgiantH
                                      halfgiant PC @daermadm
                                      last edited by

                                      Good thing you don’t have 50GP

                                      That hurts because it’s sooo true.

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                                      • halfgiantH
                                        halfgiant PC
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                                        So i was unfortunately unable to find any definitive ruling on wether a spellbreaker(s) can be used with a spell trigger activation device like a wand or a staff. And we all know if its not in the forums it doesn’t exist.

                                        Much like metamagic feats, an Artificer can apply metamagic feats to spell triggered activation items (generally wands / staffs), can he apply spellbreakers to the same item types.

                                        For Reference:

                                        Spell Trigger
                                        Spell trigger activation is similar to spell completion, but it’s even simpler. No gestures or spell finishing is needed, just a special knowledge of spellcasting that an appropriate character would know, and a single word that must be spoken. Anyone with a spell on his or her spell list knows how to use a spell trigger item that stores that spell. (This is the case even for a character who can’t actually cast spells, such as a 3rd-level paladin.) The user must still determine what spell is stored in the item before she can activate it. Activating a spell trigger item is a standard action and does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

                                        Wands

                                        Activation
                                        Wands use the spell trigger activation method, so casting a spell from a wand is usually a standard action that doesn’t provoke attacks of opportunity. (If the spell being cast, however, has a longer casting time than 1 standard action, it takes that long to cast the spell from a wand.) To activate a wand, a character must hold it in hand (or whatever passes for a hand, for nonhumanoid creatures) and point it in the general direction of the target or area. A wand may be used while grappling or while swallowed whole.

                                        Thoughts?

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                                        • dwarfD
                                          dwarf PC
                                          last edited by

                                          ** raises his index finger and starts to answer, then looks up the timeline and grins evilly… deciding to wait until tomorrow nights Plotting with The Manaverse session instead **

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                                          • daermadmD
                                            daermadm DM @halfgiant
                                            last edited by

                                            @halfgiant said in Spellbreakers:

                                            So i was unfortunately unable to find any definitive ruling on wether a spellbreaker(s) can be used with a spell trigger activation device like a wand or a staff. And we all know if its not in the forums it doesn’t exist.

                                            The answer is no. Spell breakers break the logic of the spell being cast. This is why Mystra hated them so much before she mathed it out regarding about the power in versus out.

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