Dragon Horde
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 During last gaming session, there was discussion around the declining value behind d20/3.5 treasure generators. And what magic items the party might find useful. The Portable Mansion was mentioned so everyone else won’t have to ride in Dregnoth’s little shop of horrors (very good idea), others may include- - Laputan’s Recipes for Manacite based magic items; anything specific to their culture
- Magical Receipe for Manacite-Self Recharging Cubes
- Magical Formula/Craft Design for Manacite-Based Mythallar (Lesser, Medium, or Greater)
- Map to the location of a Laputan Magical Research Facility
- Dragon Notes/Journal that describes the locations the Dragon has searched, and theories as to its location, seeking treasure that was buried and never recovered during the great battle between Dwarven Kingdom, and the Laputans. Which gives a reason as to why the Dragon choose this area in the first place.
- Introduction of the Spellbreakers
- Introduction of the Socket magics
 - I would suggest some of the more lessor or minor Ancient magic item recipes, being found in the the horde however since there hasn’t been an Ancient in this multi-verse that may be a tad difficult to explain.
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Truesight Goggles 
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Spell Point Battery 
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Star Sapphire Crystal Ball ( or other variations of scrying) 
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Manual of Golems (Admantine) 
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Ring of Three Wishes 
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Staff of Magi 
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Hammer of Thunderbolts 
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Rod of Dwarven Might, Lordly Might, or Immovable Rod 
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Staff of the Planes, or Evocation, or Power, or Many Rays, or One Hundred Hands 
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Book, Manual of Gainful Exercise or Clear Thought, etc… +5 and all the various variations 
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Mirror of Mental Prowess 
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Various Ioun Stones (Check with Dwarf, for some reason i though he had a expanded list) 
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Ring of ArchWizardry, Ring of High Priestliness, and/or Ring of the Mind (not entirely sure how these work with 10e magic) 
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Alchemist Repellant ( just wishful thinking ) 
 
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 @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde: - I would suggest some of the more lessor or minor Ancient magic item recipes, being found in the the horde however since there hasn’t been an Ancient in this multi-verse that may be a tad difficult to explain.
 there hasn’t been any DOCUMENTED Ancient in the manaverse… doesn’t mean one or more didn’t wind up here over the past few millenia  could be a whole conclave of 'em by now, hiding on a moon somewhere ! could be a whole conclave of 'em by now, hiding on a moon somewhere !
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 Hey Dregs, how long do you reckon this IOU a Dragon Treasure Horde is good for? 
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 Coinage 
 375,000GP (50% copper, 35% gold, 15% platinum)Gems 
 4x 5,000GP diamonds
 10x 1,000GP gems (assorted)
 15x 500GP gems (assorted)
 15,000gp gems < 500GP each (assorted)Art Objects 
 250,000GP assorted high quality itemsManacite 
 Refined - High quality - 50 pounds
 Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
 Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)Magic Items 
 Arcane Scroll Arcane Sight - Deep Slumber
 Arcane Scroll Nondetection - Arcane Eye - Dimension Door
 Arcane Scroll Heroism - Magic Circle against Good - Dimension Door
 Carpet of Flying (5 ft. by 5 ft.)
 Cubes - 60
 Divine Scroll Rusting Grasp
 Divine Scroll Blindness/Deafness - Snare - Wind Wall
 Divine Scroll Speak with Plants - Cure Critical Wounds - Lesser Planar Ally - Wall of Fire
 Divine Scroll Break Enchantment - Scrying - Mass Bear’s Endurance - Gate - Summon Nature’s Ally IX
 Full Plate +2
 Full Plate +3
 Heavy Steel Shield +5
 Helm of Underwater Action
 Light Steel Shield +1
 Longsword +3, Flaming
 Manual of Gainful Exercise (+1)
 Portable Mansion
 Potion of Barkskin (+2)
 Potion of Bear’s Endurance
 Potion of Levitate
 Ring of Chameleon Power
 Ring of Force Shield
 Ring of Minor Spell Storing
 Ring of Protection +2
 Rod of the Python
 Scarab of Protection
 Staff of Defense
 Staff of Life
 Staff of Size Alteration
 Staff of Swarming Insects
 Studded Leather +2 armor
 Wand of Cat’s Grace
 Wand of Cure Moderate Wounds
 Wand of Delay Poison
 Wand of Dispel Magic
 Wand of Fireball
 Wand of Firebolt
 Wand of Invisibility
 Wand of Lightning Bolt
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 ** Dregnoth starts moving into the Portable Mansion, so y’all don’t miss him too much ** 
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 Refering to this snippet - Refined - High quality - 50 pounds 
 Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
 Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)What exactly is the difference between High Quality and Average Quality? The level of magic items you can turn the material into? Not sure what the difference in quality means to us. Is the refinement process what makes it high, or is the manacite itself considered of high quality before entering refinement or both? And Raw, meaning unrefined, presumably with it still in the vein we have to harvest it or mine the Dragon’s couch? 
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 @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde: Refering to this snippet - Refined - High quality - 50 pounds 
 Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
 Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)What exactly is the difference between High Quality and Average Quality? The level of magic items you can turn the material into? Not sure what the difference in quality means to us. Is the refinement process what makes it high, or is the manacite itself considered of high quality before entering refinement or both? And Raw, meaning unrefined, presumably with it still in the vein we have to harvest it or mine the Dragon’s couch? The quality of the ore is more varied than that. But I could not find my notes and I never did actually work those all the way out. So that’s basically a big placeholder for now. And yes the raw ore still has to be mined. 
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 So if the Slaad takes the Manual of Gainful Exercise (+1) can some one read it to him … cause yeah Im not so sure he can read lol 
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 I would be all over a Staff of Magi or spell point battery. and Alchemist Repelent… LMFAO 
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 I don’t think this list has been integrated into the Party Treasure List (on Roll20). 
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 Refined - High quality - 50 pounds 
 Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
 Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)Is it age that defines quality of manacite? Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout? 
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 @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde: Refined - High quality - 50 pounds 
 Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
 Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)Is it age that defines quality of manacite? Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout? No, forgot about it 
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 So a few times now in game the DaermaDM has referenced the Laputan’s lack of expansion over many many years to the island nations, and other continents because they have hit a resource constraint on manacite. (Correct me if this is wrong, or i misunderstood) I can only assume they have the ability to scan for manacite some how, or do they still actively look for deposits on their continent? The reason i bring this up is they complete overlooked or didn’t see the 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch). I’m curious if this is because thier ability to detect manacite is limited to refined manacite and they couldn’t see the raw stuff - or the dragon’s abode masked it from their scans? Or something else? 
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 @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde: So a few times now in game the DaermaDM has referenced the Laputan’s lack of expansion over many many years to the island nations, and other continents because they have hit a resource constraint on manacite. (Correct me if this is wrong, or i misunderstood) I can only assume they have the ability to scan for manacite some how, or do they still actively look for deposits on their continent? The reason i bring this up is they complete overlooked or didn’t see the 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch). I’m curious if this is because thier ability to detect manacite is limited to refined manacite and they couldn’t see the raw stuff - or the dragon’s abode masked it from their scans? Or something else? The presence was masked. 
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 Inquiring Artificer’s want to know. 
 Refined - High quality - 50 pounds 
 Refined - Average quality 250 pounds
 Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)Is it age that defines quality of manacite? Did you ever find your notes on the ore breakout? 
 Discussion, pasted below found here Self recharging will recharge at a rate of 1 spell point per hour. 
 Non-self recharging will recharge at a rate of 1 spell point per week.Self recharging costs about 10 times a non self recharging to create due to the cost of the denser manacite. I have still to set costs for manacite… 
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 From above … “Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)” So how much would a 4000 year old vein translate to in terms of refined manacite weight? 
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 @halfgiant said in Dragon Horde: From above … “Raw - 4000 year old vein (dragon’s couch)” So how much would a 4000 year old vein translate to in terms of refined manacite weight? Manacite ore weighs about 150 pounds per cubic foot no matter its age. The older it is the more hard it is as it is becoming more crystal like although it is still stone. There is no exact conversion to refined weight. 
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 Using Gold Vein deposit information found here as a reference. Vein deposits include most gold mines, many large silver mines and a few copper and lead-zinc mines… Veins range in thickness from a few centimetres to 4 metres, the average mining width being around 1.2 metres (e.g. at Bridge River). They can be several hundreds of metres long and extend to depths in excess of 1,500 metres. Mineralization commonly occurs in shoots within the vein structures. These may be up to 150 metres in strike length, 30 metres in width and greater than 250 metres vertical. How wide was our Dragons behind, to be relaxing on such a nice couch? 
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 Manacite is not metal ore. It is stone that has changed. It is mined along with the stone it is formed in, typically located with the use of divination spells. Refining can happen more than one way. The dwarven mountain, in which you let Dregnoth ruin their garbage disposal, uses a solutoin of liquefied mana, among other things, in the refining process. 
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